Joe Rogan says banning police chokeholds is ‘F-ing crazy,’ Jocko Willink calls for more training

Joe Rogan is one of the largest and most popular podcasters and said that banning police chokeholds is “F – ing crazy ” during his interview with former Navy Seal, now speaker and author Jocko Willink, discussing the defund the police movement and the policing crisis nationally.

“I think it’s crazy,” Rogan says initially when Willink points out that the narrative of banning police chokeholds is on the table.

“…if you’re a cop and you’re in a fight for your life and you can’t use chokeholds, that’s f**king crazy,” Rogan says, “You’re going to get shot and killed, or somebody else is gonna get shot and killed. Somebody is going to take your gun.”

Rogan and Willink discuss many elements of the issue, talking about different perspectives of police tactics and the George Floyd cae.

Willink changes the direction of the conversation, stating, “You know what the police need more than anything else? They need money for training.”

He asserts they need 20% of their time role-playing and learning how to handle scenarios, contrasting police training with the 18 months for a Seal team before being dispatched for six months.

Kapap instructor demonstrates choke techniques with his student photo/guruxox

President Trump recently including chokehold bans in the language of his executive order and many legislatures around the country are also looking to abolish the tactic.

PolitiFact points out that other nations require years of training prior to becoming a police officer, compared to months in the U.S.

A 2016 Bureau of Justice Statistics review found that from 2011 to 2013, most academy training lasts “an average of about 840 hours, or 21 weeks.”

Nearly all police officers completed a mandatory field training after their basic training according to that 2013 report. About 37% of field training programs are organized by academies that require an average of 500 additional hours, or over 12 weeks, to complete field training. Based on these numbers, police officers have an average of 33 weeks of training.

Based on that 2016 report, U.S. police officers are trained for almost eight months, and about three months of that training is in the field.

Between 1975 and 1980, LAPD officers used chokeholds on at least 975 occasions.

Individuals have sued precincts over the practice, but a Supreme Court ruling in the City of Los Angeles v. Lyons (1983) ended with a 5-4 decision keeping the practice legal.

Both Rogan and Willink discuss the consequences could be more violent interactions, the use of batons and force to subdue criminals during an arrest.

Watch the clip below, Taken from JRE #1492 w/Jocko Willink:

Joe Rogan recently made headlines with his announcement to move his show to Spotify in an exclusive deal, beginning in September, a topic discussing the weekly NEWS TALK show, watch that clip at the bottom. Rogan began his career in comedy during the late 1980s, starring NewsRadio, hosting Fear Factor and now as an MMA commentator.

In 2009, Rogan launched his podcast The Joe Rogan Experience.

Willink co-authored the books Extreme Ownership and The Dichotomy of Leadership, co-founded the management consulting firm Echelon Front, LLC and hosts a weekly podcast called the Jocko Podcast.

He was honored with the Silver Star and Bronze Star for his service in Iraq.

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